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		<title>By: David Strain</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Strain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;***moderator&#039;s note: this comment was left on the previous post several days ago.  I have added it here b/c the content is relevant to the discussion***&lt;/i&gt;

Having preached through Jonah a number of times, I think a key danger here is saying that moral instruction about obeying the call of God is categorically a wrong application of this passage.

I am a huge advocate of redemptive historical preaching. I believe the primary interpretation of the Jonah narrative should take you to the ’sign of Jonah’and the use our Lord makes of it.

Furthermore, I think it is important to place Jonah into the ‘big picture’ of God’s covenantal program to bring Abrahamic blessing on the nations. Part of the purpose of Jonah is to challenge isolationist views of Israel’s role in the world from inside the covenant community. There is more than an echo of the message of Matt 28 19ff etc in the story.

But fundaentally I am distressd when I read simple ‘NO’ or ‘YES’ answers to this question. If by ‘yes’ people mean that it is OK to spiritualise the passage, reduce it to a mere allegory of their own expereince, apply pietistic and individualised interpretations etc then of course this is dead wrong. But if by ‘no’ folks intend to say that there are no lessons for Christian discipleship in the narrative then they too are dead wrong. The dominant note should be Christological but it should not leave us with an un applied Christ.</description>
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<p>Having preached through Jonah a number of times, I think a key danger here is saying that moral instruction about obeying the call of God is categorically a wrong application of this passage.</p>
<p>I am a huge advocate of redemptive historical preaching. I believe the primary interpretation of the Jonah narrative should take you to the ’sign of Jonah’and the use our Lord makes of it.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I think it is important to place Jonah into the ‘big picture’ of God’s covenantal program to bring Abrahamic blessing on the nations. Part of the purpose of Jonah is to challenge isolationist views of Israel’s role in the world from inside the covenant community. There is more than an echo of the message of Matt 28 19ff etc in the story.</p>
<p>But fundaentally I am distressd when I read simple ‘NO’ or ‘YES’ answers to this question. If by ‘yes’ people mean that it is OK to spiritualise the passage, reduce it to a mere allegory of their own expereince, apply pietistic and individualised interpretations etc then of course this is dead wrong. But if by ‘no’ folks intend to say that there are no lessons for Christian discipleship in the narrative then they too are dead wrong. The dominant note should be Christological but it should not leave us with an un applied Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benj, yeah, just as soon as publishers start sending me books to give away. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benj, yeah, just as soon as publishers start sending me books to give away. <img src='http://www.thelionrampant.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: benj</title>
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		<dc:creator>benj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 12:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what did we win? You do have the contests like Challies, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what did we win? You do have the contests like Challies, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, sorry, Elizabeth - at first I thought it was Neyir, then I went back and checked, and I still got it wrong! But I definitely agree - I have laughed while reading Jonah before. And that just doesn&#039;t happen much in the OT. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, sorry, Elizabeth &#8211; at first I thought it was Neyir, then I went back and checked, and I still got it wrong! But I definitely agree &#8211; I have laughed while reading Jonah before. And that just doesn&#8217;t happen much in the OT. <img src='http://www.thelionrampant.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Neyir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neyir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 09:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Liz, for a moment I thought I might have to come up with a literary arguement - scary.  I could maybe sing a song about it though, italian or french, maybe a little german - no veggie tales!  Great lesson Bryce :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Liz, for a moment I thought I might have to come up with a literary arguement &#8211; scary.  I could maybe sing a song about it though, italian or french, maybe a little german &#8211; no veggie tales!  Great lesson Bryce <img src='http://www.thelionrampant.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Wilkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 07:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait...I thought I said it didn&#039;t work in a literature sense.  

The charachter of Jonah is the typification of the &quot;fool&quot; charachter - that is he embodies what NOT to do.  The book is in fact a comedy and you&#039;re supposed to laugh at how foolish Jonah is.  It&#039;s obvious that he&#039;s being a big dork and come on - he gets swallowed by a big fish!!  Therefore, as a book, it is not about condemnation in the least.  It&#039;s an example of obedience and knowing that God&#039;s knowledge is beyond our own cultures and practices etc.

This is shown through the various &quot;voices&quot; in the text - if you will - you can sense the cultural and personal tensions, in this a &quot;lighter&quot; look at obeying God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230;I thought I said it didn&#8217;t work in a literature sense.  </p>
<p>The charachter of Jonah is the typification of the &#8220;fool&#8221; charachter &#8211; that is he embodies what NOT to do.  The book is in fact a comedy and you&#8217;re supposed to laugh at how foolish Jonah is.  It&#8217;s obvious that he&#8217;s being a big dork and come on &#8211; he gets swallowed by a big fish!!  Therefore, as a book, it is not about condemnation in the least.  It&#8217;s an example of obedience and knowing that God&#8217;s knowledge is beyond our own cultures and practices etc.</p>
<p>This is shown through the various &#8220;voices&#8221; in the text &#8211; if you will &#8211; you can sense the cultural and personal tensions, in this a &#8220;lighter&#8221; look at obeying God.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that approach. Now I want to hear Neyir&#039;s reasoning on why the interpretation doesn&#039;t work in a literary sense. Sounds intriguing. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that approach. Now I want to hear Neyir&#8217;s reasoning on why the interpretation doesn&#8217;t work in a literary sense. Sounds intriguing. <img src='http://www.thelionrampant.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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